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		<title>Parallels between Epicureanism and Confucianism</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2011 13:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The parallels between Epicureanism and Buddhism have been seen and shown, discussed and understood during the last years but its parallels with Confucianism, at least to my knowledge, not yet. I was not aware of any parallelism myself before reading Bertrand Russell’s ‘Eastern and Western Ideals of Happiness’. I was sometimes musing about the pros [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The parallels between Epicureanism and Buddhism have been seen and shown, discussed and understood during the last years but its parallels with Confucianism, at least to my knowledge, not yet. I was not aware of any parallelism myself before reading Bertrand Russell’s ‘Eastern and Western Ideals of Happiness’.</p>
<p>I was sometimes musing about the pros and cons of how the Western world might have evolved if Epicureanism and not Christianism had been installed as state religion by the Romans. Would the creed and conduct of life of the middle classes have been able to influence the cruel fanaticism if the lower classes or the cruel cynicism of the ruling classes?</p>
<p>Such speculations are of course mote but after reading Russell’s essay I tend to see more positive than negative possibilities of a practicable system of ethics imposed by the ( a quasi ‘state-religion’)based on an understanding of human nature, and the cultivation of humanity such as Confucianism had been in China for2400 years.</p>
<p>The following quotations might enlighten the parallelisms that I discovered for myself (emphasis mine):</p>
<p><em>The civilisation of China, as every one knows, is based upon the teaching of Confucius, who flourished five hundred years  before Christ. […] His personality has been stamped on Chinese civilisation from his day to our own. […]</em></p>
<p><em>During his lifetime the Chinese occupied only a small part of present-day China, and were divided into a number of warring states. During the next three hundred years they established themselves throughout what is now China proper, and founded an empire exceeding in territory and population any other that existed until the last fifty years. In spite of barbarian invasions, Mongol and Manchu dynasties, and occasional longer or shorter periods of chaos and civil war, the Confucian system survived, </em></p>
<p><em>bringing with it art and literature and a civilised way of life. It is only in our own day, through contact with the West and with the Westernised Japanese, that this system has begun to break down. </em></p>
<p><em>A system which has had this extraordinary power of survival must have great merits, and certainly deserves our respect and consideration. <span style="text-decoration: underline;">It is not a religion</span>, as we understand the word, </em></p>
<p><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">because it is not associated with the supernatural or with mystical beliefs. It is a purely ethical system, but its ethics, unlike those of Christianity, are not too exalted for ordinary men to practise.</span> </em></p>
<p><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">He […] never exacts anything contrary to nature and the natural affections. </span></em></p>
<p><em>Confucius was in all things moderate, even in virtue. He did not believe that we ought to return good for evil. […]</em></p>
<p><em>The principle of returning good for evil was being taught in his day in China by the Taoists, whose teaching is much more akin to that of Christianity than is the teaching of Confucius.  […]</em></p>
<p><em> It is characteristic of China that it was not Lao-Tze but Confucius who became the recognised national sage. Taoism has survived, but chiefly as magic and among the uneducated. Its doctrines have appeared visionary to the practical men who administered the Empire, while the doctrines of Confucius were eminently calculated to avoid friction. […]</em></p>
<p><em>Chinese governors naturally preferred the Confucian maxims of <span style="text-decoration: underline;">self-control, benevolence and courtesy, combined, as they were, with a great emphasis upon the good that could be done by wise government.</span> </em></p>
<p><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">It never occurred to the Chinese, as it has to all modern white nations, to have one system of ethics in theory and another in practice. </span>I do not mean that they always live up to their own theories, but that they attempt to do so and are  expected to do so, whereas there are large parts of the Christian ethic which are universally admitted to be too good for this wicked world. </em></p>
<p><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">We have, in fact, two kinds of morality side by side: one which we preach but do not practise, and another which we practise but seldom preach</span>. […] <span style="text-decoration: underline;">In practice, our effective morality is that of material success achieved by means of a struggle; and  this applies to nations as well as to individuals</span>. Anything else seems to us soft and foolish. </em></p>
<p><em>The Chinese do not adopt either our theoretical or our practical ethic. They admit in theory that there are occasions when it is proper to fight, and in practice that these occasions are rare; whereas we hold in theory that there are no occasions when it is proper to fight and in practice that such occasions are very frequent. […]</em></p>
<p><em>Young China—that is to say, the students who have been educated on European lines—recognise modern needs, and have perhaps hardly enough respect for the old tradition. Nevertheless, even the most modern, with few exceptions, retain the traditional virtues of <span style="text-decoration: underline;">moderation, politeness and a </span></em><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">pacific temper.</span> […]</em></p>
<p><em>If I were to try to sum up in a phrase the main difference between the Chinese and ourselves, I should say that <span style="text-decoration: underline;">they, in the main, aim at enjoyment, while we, in the main, aim at power</span>. We like power over our fellow-men, and we like power over Nature. For the sake of the former we have built up strong states, and for the sake of the latter we have built up Science. </em></p>
<p><em>The Chinese […] will not work, as Americans and Western Europeans do simply because they would be bored if they did not work, nor do they love hustle for its own sake. When they have enough to live on, they live on it, instead of trying to augment it by hard work. They have an infinite capacity for leisurely amusements—going to the theatre, talking while they drink tea, admiring the Chinese art of earlier times, or walking in beautiful scenery. To our way of thinking, there is something unduly mild about such a way of spending one’s life; we respect more a man who goes to his office every day, even if all that he does in his office is harmful. </em></p>
<p><em>Living in the East has, perhaps a corrupting influence upon a white man, but I must confess that, since I came to know China, I have regarded laziness as one of the best qualities of which men in the mass are capable. We achieve certain things by being energetic, but it may be questioned whether, on the balance, the things that we achieve are of any value. We develop wonderful skill in manufacture, part of which we devote to making ships, automobiles, telephones and other means of living luxuriously </em></p>
<p><em>at high pressure, while another part is devoted to making guns, poison gases and aeroplanes for the purpose of killing each other wholesale. We have a first-class system of administration and taxation, part of which is devoted to education, sanitation and such useful objects, while the rest is devoted to war. In England at the present day most of the national revenue is spent on past and future wars and only the residue on useful objects. On the Continent, in most countries, the proportion is even worse. We have a police system of unexampled efficiency, part of which is devoted to the detection and prevention of crime and part to imprisoning anybody who has any new constructive political ideas. In China, until recently, they had none of these things. […] <span style="text-decoration: underline;">The result was that in China, as compared to any white man’s country, there was freedom for all, and a degree of diffused happiness</span> which was amazing in view of the poverty of all but a tiny minority. </em></p>
<p><em>Comparing the actual outlook of the average Chinese with that of the average Western, two differences strike one: first, that the Chinese <span style="text-decoration: underline;">do not admire activity unless it serves some useful purpose; secondly, that they do not regard morality as consisting in checking our own impulses and interfering with those of others. </span></em></p>
<p><em>Confucius taught that men are born good, and that if they become wicked, that is through the force of evil example or corrupting manners. This difference from traditional Western orthodoxy has a profound influence on the outlook of the Chinese. […]</em></p>
<p><em>Among ourselves, the people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forgo ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others. There is an element of the busybody in our conception of virtue: unless a man makes himself a nuisance to a great many people, we do not think he can be an exceptionally good man. This attitude comes <span style="text-decoration: underline;">from our notion of Sin. It leads not only to interference with freedom, but also to hypocrisy, since the conventional standard is too difficult for most people to live up to. </span></em></p>
<p><em>In China this is not the case. <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Moral precepts are positive rather than negative. A man is expected to be respectful to his parents, kind to his children, generous to his poor relations, and courteous </span></em></p>
<p><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">to all. These are not very difficult duties, but most men actually fulfil them, and the result is perhaps better than that of our higher standard, from which most people fall short. </span>[…]</em></p>
<p><em>Another result of the absence of the notion of Sin is that men are much more willing to submit their differences to argument and reason than they are in the West. Among ourselves, differences </em></p>
<p><em>of opinion quickly become questions of ‘principle’: each side thinks that the other side is wicked, and that any yielding to it involves sharing in its guilt. This makes our disputes bitter, and involves in practice a great readiness to appeal to force. In China, although there were military men who were ready to appeal to force, no one took them seriously, not even their own soldiers. […] The great bulk of the population, including the civil administration, went about its business as though these generals and their armies did not exist. In ordinary life, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">disputes are usually adjusted by the friendly mediation of some third party. Compromise is the accepted principle</span>, because it is necessary to save the face of both parties. Saving face, though in some forms it makes foreigners smile, is a most valuable national institution, making social and political life far less ruthless than it is with us. […]</em></p>
<p><em>If the whole world were like China, the whole world could be happy; but so long as others are warlike </em></p>
<p><em>and energetic, the Chinese, now that they are no longer isolated, will be compelled to copy our vices to some degree if they are to preserve their national independence. But let us not flatter ourselves that this imitation will be an improvement.</em></p>
<p>The student of Epicureanism will have no difficulty in discovering the parallelisms between the teachings, and especially the results of practicing the teachings, of Epicurus and Confucius.</p>
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		<title>Boy, am I glad I didn&#8217;t waste my time on maths</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 00:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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<div><span style="font-family: verdana, sans-serif;"><a href="http://robephiles.hubpages.com/hub/Key-Concepts-of-the-Philosophy-of-Bertrand-Russell">http://robephiles.hubpages.com/hub/Key-Concepts-of-the-Philosophy-of-Bertrand-Russell</a></span></div>
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		<title>Russell ignores Epicurus?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[BR shows deep understanding of Epicuranism and Epicurus as a philosopher in his &#8220;History of Western Philosophy&#8221;. Yet in &#8220;The Conquest of Happiness&#8221; &#8211; a wonderful litlle book of Epicurean inspiration &#8211; he ignores Epicurus almost totally. (He does NOT disparage him, though, as Epicurus did Nausiphanes.) Does anybody have a clue why the basically [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">BR shows deep understanding of Epicuranism and Epicurus as a philosopher in his &#8220;History of Western Philosophy&#8221;.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">Yet in &#8220;The Conquest of Happiness&#8221; &#8211; a wonderful litlle book of Epicurean inspiration &#8211; he ignores Epicurus almost totally. (He does NOT disparage him, though, as Epicurus did Nausiphanes.)</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">Does anybody have a clue why the basically Epicurean Russell ignored Epicurus in this work?</div>
<p>Bertrand Russell shows deep understanding of Epicuranism and Epicurus as a philosopher in his &#8220;History of Western Philosophy&#8221;.</p>
<p>Yet in &#8220;The Conquest of Happiness&#8221; &#8211; a wonderful litlle book of Epicurean inspiration &#8211; he ignores Epicurus almost totally. (He does NOT disparage him, though, as Epicurus did Nausiphanes.)</p>
<p>Does anybody have a clue why the basically Epicurean Russell ignored Epicurus in this work?</p>
<p>This is the question I have just ported on Facebook:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=14290&amp;uid=86711477873#!/topic.php?uid=86711477873&amp;topic=14290">http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=14290&amp;uid=86711477873#!/topic.php?uid=86711477873&amp;topic=14290</a></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unwittingly Epicurean My hypothesis is that people are born as Epicureans but then they are re-educated. So we are all of us unwittingly Epicureans – basicaslly. But there is a group of people who know exactly who Epicurus was or Epicureanism was and is, and yet they either somehow “forget” to mention this like Bertrand [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">Unwittingly Epicurean</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">My hypothesis is that people are born as Epicureans but then they are re-educated. So we are all of us unwittingly Epicureans – basicaslly.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">But there is a group of people who know exactly who Epicurus was or Epicureanism was and is, and yet they either somehow “forget” to mention this like Bertrand Russell in “The Conquest of Happiness “</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px; overflow-x: hidden; overflow-y: hidden;">And then there are those who misunderstand and or misrepresent the essence of Epicureanism, but their work is another scientific support of Epicureanism, like Daniel Gilbert&#8217;s “Stumbling on Happiness”.</div>
<p>My hypothesis is that people are born as Epicureans but then they are re-educated. So we are all of us unwittingly Epicureans – basically.</p>
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<div>But there is are people who know exactly who Epicurus was or Epicureanism was and is, and yet they somehow “forget” to mention this like Bertrand Russell in “The Conquest of Happiness “</div>
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<div>And then there are those who misunderstand and or misrepresent the essence of Epicureanism, but their work is another scientific support of Epicureanism, like Daniel Gilbert&#8217;s “Stumbling on Happiness”.</div>
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<div>I will call all them all  simply &#8220;unwittingly Epicurean&#8221; and will go on scrolling their names with my claims.</div>
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<p>In my younger days it was vodka, whiskey, wine, sex, romantic love, theater, movies, literature, philosophy I got intoxicated with. Nowadays it&#8217;s mostly just literature and philosophy. Luckily I take up ideas slowly and forget them fast (some of my friends suggest that this could possibly  be a retarded effect of all the alcohol I got intoxicated with in my younger days), so I can re-read pages again and again on human bondage and liberation by Epicurus, Michel Montaigne, Voltaire, Esther Vilar, Bertrand Russell, Kurt Vonnegut, Manfred Max-Neef and about a dozen of other authors experiencing every  time almost the same thrill I felt when I first read them. Is this an anticipation of the beatitudes promised by Alzheimer ‘s?</p>
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